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Discussion in 'RMR Section and RMR Selection' started by KwA96, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. KwA96

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    Passed my PRMC this week so I'm obviously over the moon and the aim of becoming a Royal Marine hasnt changed but i just cant decide whether or not i want to go RMR or full time. Would anyone be able to give me an insight in to training and life in the RMR please and talk about the opportunities they have had ?

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  2. Ninja_Stoker

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    Good effort, well done.

    This is a good starter for ten with regard training: https://www.royalmarines.uk/threads/rmr-training-overview-from-start-to-finish.114211/

    It'll take 12-14 months to complete RMR training and around 40 RMR trained ranks a year will be mobilised & serve full-time within a regular Commando unit for 12 months.

    I'm advised RMR trained ranks will no longer specialise, other than UKSF(R), so most will remain GD Riflemen as a Reservist
     
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  3. THOR

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    Is this an attempt to nudge some guys over to the regs then?

    And would that play into promotions for guys in the RMR?
     
  4. Ninja_Stoker

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    I honestly don't know the reasons but there will undoubtedly be implications for Reservists wanting to specialise and/or remain "part time".

    My guess is it could mean some Reservists are more likely to resign rather than transfer. Those who are former regulars will retain their SQ but I guess those who left the regulars as trained ranks to better manage their home -life balance and those joining the Reserves, on a better civilian wage, thinking they can pick and choose, may become disillusioned.
     
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  5. THOR

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    Might have been an idea to put a minimum amount of time mobilised before you can go for a specialisation. That way it would both encourage reservists to plug some gaps, and not alienate those who are giving time and effort.
     
  6. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Yea. In basic terms, RMR is admin, it’s badly managed and run, takes ages, isn’t the same standard of training, and it’s plagied with its own unique troubles of its own, barely any back up and support for injuries and/or welfare, lack of understanding or flexibility for fulltime employment and a lot of it will be expected to be maintaned in your own time, and expense.

    The Regulars is a career, has its own inherent problems, it will take over your life, it will be a priority of friends and family, you are stuck 24/7 and can be deployed at any moment, and you won’t be able to go home on the weekend, without getting your bedroom inspected by the chain of command that aren’t really bothered.


    But, it depends entirely on YOUR situation. Don’t believe the spin about “best of both worlds” for RMR. I am a firm believer that RMR is only a benefit for those who are ex regular, older, self employed or in fulltime education.

    How old are you, are you in fulltime education or employment? What is your plan for the rest of your life?
     
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  7. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    More than likely. It’s a political move no doubt. There’s been a few changes to RMR in political stunts that have been detrimental to manning and morale.

    Promotions will be near impossible in RMR. No fexibility and a long turnover for billets.
     
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  8. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    There are already grumbles of lads transferring, not least because the RMR didn’t offer the ex regular bonus like the Army Reserve did. Which is an absolute joke.

    The RMR is literally held together by the thread of “cap badge pride” and “being a bootneck”.
     
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  9. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    Ah. You have spirit young Padawan.
     
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    That sounds like a tip top point to me. I've been thinking about the part I bolded for a while now and have been edging towards RMR. At 26, having a well paying job, and already planning on my stagtes after the RM, it feels like going full-time just wouldn't be worth it unless I was able to bank some cash.

    It's a shame to hear that RMR can be a ball ache in that regard. I wasn't aware of those problems and it makes the desicion even harder.
     
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  11. ex killick

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    No comment, but fair play and good luck with what ever you choose.
     
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  12. TheRubberDagger

    TheRubberDagger Royal Marines Commando

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    Like @ThreadpigeonsAlpha I served as a regular and I am now serving as a reservist.

    Just to put a different slant on things, for balance; I genuinely do enjoy my reserve service. However, that being said- I am a realist. The perfect unit does not exist. Fact.
    Some troops spend their career jumping from ship to ship, unit to unit & service to service in search of that perfect unit. You’ve got to do what is best for you and knock on the right doors when you get there. It is very easy to sit on your hole and honk about being pointlessly fcuked about and the incompetence of seniors. Newsflash: this happens throughout the Forces and in grots up and down the land you will find young troops discussing how the military should be ran.

    I am quite fortunate in that my command chain is fantastic & incredibly proactive. Our PSI is a top bloke too, really on top of admin and keeping everyone busy. And I don’t mean sweeping out the drill hall. I understand a lot of this is down to the unit/det you tip up at, but as an individual you can either make something of your time or sit back and throw quiet tantrums.

    I feel it is important to try and build an understanding of the differences in mentality between a reg and a reservist. The main culprits in my experience who moan about how badly run the reserve units are, are I fact ex regulars.I see former regular Royals complain about people in the reserves not being up to the job all the time.

    The issue is that many reservists hold down busy and demanding regular careers, and making time to go to every training weekend above the minimum commitment can be very tricky for some.
    There is a train of though from a lot of ex regs that because not everyone can make every weekend it translates into a subconscious bias that Reservists are not able to do the job. Which is nonsense. A very large percentage of my unit is former RM’s with ample deployable experience however there is also a healthy percentage of guys who have came from a purely reserve background. It all works fine.

    In my view, one of the biggest issues facing any Reserve Unit at the moment- From RMR to an Army Reserve RLC (snigger snigger) regiment. Is the lack of operational deployments. Iraq and, especially, Afghan were great for recruiting (especially for recruiting the right kind of recruit). They were cracking for retention too: they have encouraged some of the wasters to sod off and so made the remainder more cohesive and a better kind of outfit to join and remain in.
    You sharpen a bods mind much more when there is a immediate and real prospect of risking your life!
     
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  13. Chelonian

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    Yep, as true in 2019 as it was in 1914. Not suggesting I'm that old, obvs.

    My perception from your post and from those from @ThreadpigeonsAlpha is that some RMR detachments make civilian work/life engagement with reserve service practical and achievable for Recruits while others don't. Any suggestions from either of you about which RMR detachments a hard working family man should actively avoid?
     
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  14. TheRubberDagger

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    Truth is service in ANY reserves element is not always going to be seen in a positive light by primary employers.It can also effect how much time you commit to your own business if you are self employed.

    RMR needs to come third in the holy trinity of life in the reserve service (Family, Work, Reserves). Those who don’t get the order right may find the hard way that juggling the commitment comes at a cost.

    Ex regulars need to accept that things are a bit...well.....different. Not necessarily bad, just...different in the reserves. Just embrace the differences and bring your experience to bear and it can be very beneficial for both parties.
    A hard working man just has to make sure he understands the liability for training (both time and phys) and mobilisation. You need to be fully committed.
     
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  15. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    I would like to add a caveat, I enjoyed my time as a regular and I do enjoy RMR, it’s just the frustrations and underlying problems that just ruin it. It has the potential to be really good, but has very unique and glaring problems that either get ignored, or forgotten about. Either because they can’t be bothered dealing with them, it’s hard work or genuinely gets forgotten.


    And RMR need to realise that in the real world, time = money. Full time employment is what keeps a roof over my head and food on the table. By RMRs own admission, I shouldn’t rely on my RMR pay.
     
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  16. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    But I’m scared.... :D
     
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  17. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    You flirt!


    In seriousness, is there any digital copies of the training programme?
     
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  18. TheRubberDagger

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    PM inbound, standby.
     
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    Apologies if this is in the wrong thread gents. I'm just wanting to know how the RMR work with regards to deployments exactly? Both exercises and live ops? Would the RMR (London in my case) deploy as a unit strength together formed of only reserves or do they only ever augment the regulars and bolt into a regular commando unit when they go away? From everything I’ve found online it appears that the regs aren’t doing that much or going anywhere at the minute. I was thinking that now the future commando force has been created will this makes things a little bit complex for RMR ranks to simply augment the regs in this role.

    I think I’m wrong in believing that the only way to deploy with the RMR is to augment the regs through a billet that would be for example, 6-12 months full time commitment?
     
  20. Illustrious

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    Its always augmentation of the regular units, normally on a FTRS (full time reservce service) contract usually around 12 months in duration.
     
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