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Weapons training at Unit?

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by RedStag, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. Chelonian

    Chelonian Moderator

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    Agreed. The UK services generally have long held a well deserved reputation for individual marksmanship and for placing great importance on making very round count.

    Historically, a conscious decision was made in the first years of the 20th century to reduce the required standard of marksmanship and the associated training. A very high standard of long range marksmanship had previously been considered essential because of the tactical doctrines of the 19th century. It was decided that 750 men having the capacity to reliably shoot a round through an enemy's head at range was overkill when they only had to put a round through an enemy's chest.

    An essential element of 19th century marksmanship was a very long rifle. The introduction of the new Rifle, Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield Mk1 was a game changer. The SMLE was a whole five inches shorter than its predecessor; the rifle was short, not the magazine. :)
    The final iteration of that rifle, the L42A1 chambered for 7.62mm, was not declared obsolete until the 1990s.
     
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  2. Rover

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    As regards pistol work, I was taught that the stance you were happy with that ensured you hit the centre mass was fine.;)

    RN & RM Shooting Team..jpg

    Although a big difference to firing on a range compared to a combat situation.o_O Never a fan of the FBI stance which presented your whole body as a target.-banghead--doctor-
     
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  3. Rob20

    Rob20 Royal Marines Commando

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    Yes baffled me that when first taught.

    "if you do this, you'll display your body armour. Which is what we want"

    Erm.... Pardon me but id rather not get hit in the body armour, id rather not get hit at all :D:D:D
     
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  4. Major_Disaster

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    The novelty of weapons will soon leave you the second you have to clean one!!
     
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  5. LilInac

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    Sorry to hijack thread op, but just thought it kinda went in with your question, just seen on some videos and pictures of some RM using a c8, do only some units use the c8?
    many thanks
     
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  6. SCOTTY6

    SCOTTY6 Royal Marines Commando

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    43 and J coy from 40 both use the C8. Its a brilliant weapon. There’s talk of the whole corps changing weapons system to either a C8 or something similar but who knows if it’s hen or how far away that will be.
     
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  7. LilInac

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    Ahh thank you for that, looks like a nice bit of kit to be fair, is there any reasoning why only some units got it? If that makes sense !
    Many thanks.
     
  8. SCOTTY6

    SCOTTY6 Royal Marines Commando

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    Both 43 and j coy roles require them to operate within the confines of a ship or within the casing of a submarine. The C8 can chamber an L15 5.56 reduced ricochet limited penetration round to prevent unwanted casualties and collateral damage within a ship or submarine.
     
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  9. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    And I think it can be fired from either shoulder, so you don't exposed your whole body when moving round corners?

    Alan
     
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  10. SCOTTY6

    SCOTTY6 Royal Marines Commando

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    Yeah that’s right. Nothing like thinking your skills and drills arnt that bad then being introduced to a left handed speed reload -banghead-
     
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