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Why has Trump barred trans troops?

Discussion in 'Military News and Clips' started by News, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. News

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    LGBT correspondent Ben Hunte explains what new rules mean for trans people serving in the US military.

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    What is interesting about the BAME (Black, Asian, Minority and Ethnic) groups, subdivided even further into the LGBT groups (and other variations) is, for the most part, they do not want to be collectively labelled or associated.

    In particular, as I have learnt to my cost, the fact that although females number less than 14% of UK service personnel, a large number most definitely do not want want to be considered a minority under the BAME label.

    Granted 50% of the population is not a minority in general terms but it is in the Armed Forces with regard representation...much the same as whites are a minority group in, for example, Kenya, China, India or Sudan.

    With regard transgender, we (UK) currently accept applications from individuals who identify as Female, have male genitalia and declare themselves lesbian, for example.

    We could then have this individual sharing the accommodation & communal ablutions with females under age 18. What could possibly go wrong? And, when it does, who never identified it as a potential risk?

    And then we wonder why there are so few females joining.
     
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    It's certainly an unresolved issue for categories of people who are in HM custody. Sadly it may take a tragedy or a serious assault to occur before a balance is established between safety and individual rights.
     
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    I find the concept hardest to grasp when reading the medical guidelines in jsp 950. Candidates who have once had anorexia are deemed unfit, yet candidates who have fully transitioned to the opposite gender can often still be accepted and now sent to the front line. Or, in other words, thinking you’re overweight when thin means you are mentally ill and unstable, but thinking you are a woman when you’re a man is just a bump in the road.
     
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    That’s because it’s all mental health issues.
     
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    Yep. It feels like we skipped years of debate around the origins of gender issues and whether they are healthy and normal. Instead we just went straight to the conclusion that if you question people’s feelings you are being hateful. I remember first hearing about the idea of transgenders years ago and thought “oh yeah what’s this new thing they’ve come up with”. Lo and behold a few years later it’s being taught in schools to children and questioning it can be punished by jail.

    Whilst it can be a very infuriating topic, it is important I believe not to aim the fire at transgenders themselves, rather at the people who have facilitated this situation and worked so hard to convince the world it is normal.

    You wouldn’t get angry at your friend for having depression, but you should be angry at the person who tells him suicide is the answer.
     
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    Yep, a person demanding the amputation of a perfectly healthy arm might be diagnosed with body dysmorphic disorder and have their mental condition clinically assessed.

    Another person demanding the amputation of healthy genitals may well find themselves on a very different care pathway.
     
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