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Would Pins in my hip stop me joining?

Discussion in 'Introductions & Welcome to the Royal Marines Site' started by 15Conor, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. 15Conor

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    Hi. I applied for the Army last year and got rejected on Medical grounds because I broke my hip 6+ Years ago and currently have 3 Pins in it, and ever since Ive constantly thought about
    joining the military, Im kind of assuming it would but its worth trying, Would the pins in my hip stop me joining the Royal Marines? Ive never had pain or problems of any kind from it and I dont have leas mobility, my
    hip is perfectly fine.
     
  2. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    I'm not a medical expert, but RM training is far more robust than the Army, so I would guess that the answer would be negative.

    Hopefully one of the AFCOs will be along to give you some good advice.

    Alan
     
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  3. 15Conor

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    Ok thanks for the reply. It sucks because all ive ever wanted to do was join the Army or Marines and I cant because of a stupid skatepark accident 6 years ago.
     
  4. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    As I have said, I'm not a medic, but hopefully @The guide or @CHUB! will see this and advise accordingly.

    Alan
     
  5. The guide

    The guide Ex RAF, Ex Royal Marines, now RN.! go figure

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    You can be considered for entry by a service consultant as long as you fit certain criteria, and depending exactly what was done ( we don't need to know on here !!) You would likely be made TMU or PMU and that's the point service DR'S could look at you....but in very broad terms the following applies as long as 12 months post surgery.

    Fractures with union confirmed , no deformity and asymptomatic with exercise comparable with military training "may" only be accepted following ref feral to a single service physician responsible for service entry

    Hope that helps!!
     
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  6. 15Conor

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    Thanks for reply.

    I hope I dont sound dumb haha, but Im not sure what most of that means.
     
  7. The guide

    The guide Ex RAF, Ex Royal Marines, now RN.! go figure

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    My fault!! So at the medical stage you will be made a version of unfit!! Either temporary or permanent, so your medical records will need to be looked at by a Royal Navy, you will need proffesional of physical ability level with that of Royal Marine training ( so a 3 month training diary), you will require to have no symptoms as well , after all of this you " may" be given permission to enter service.
     
  8. 15Conor

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    That makes sense now, Thanks.

    So lets say I applied for the RM and kept a 3+ months training diary before applying, I could show that as soon as I get rejected, depending on if its a PMU or TMU?
     
  9. The guide

    The guide Ex RAF, Ex Royal Marines, now RN.! go figure

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    That would speed things up, also any information relating to you injury, but Capita will still ask your Dr,s for the notes , Your own AFCO will guide you through the appeal process if and when required.
     
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  10. 15Conor

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    Out of curiosity, What do you think my chances are of getting in, in your opinion? either way, im going to try, just wondering.
     
  11. The guide

    The guide Ex RAF, Ex Royal Marines, now RN.! go figure

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    You can only go by the rules mate, my opinion counts for nothing!! And without full knowledge of everything medical impossible to say for anybody.
     
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    Sorry go revive a few days old
    post, can I ask you a question. My Army rejection said the following;


    MUSCULOSKELETAL PRE-ENTRY ANNEX K

    4.K.14.c

    Intra-Articular fractures involving the upper and lower limb joints. Early osteoarthritis is the norm. Candidates with a history of these fractures are normally graded UNFIT.


    Does that mean I was rejected because I broke my hip or because I could potentially get osteoarthritis?
     
  13. The guide

    The guide Ex RAF, Ex Royal Marines, now RN.! go figure

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    Both, but future indicators are you we get osteoarthritis, this is the grounds of the rejection

    . You are not able to appeal the standard set, only if is wrong??? and in your case it clearly is not a you broke your hip and had fixation.
     
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    I seen someone else on here appeal the same thing, He got seen by a hip specialist and showed no signs off osteoarthritis and I think he got accepted into the marines
     
  15. The guide

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    No 2 cases are the same so don't read to much into what others do!!, the info I have provided are the rules as they stand if you were rejected by the Army it is very likely you will be by the RM as our DR,s are more stringent due to the nature of training and the same rules are used by all 3 sevices
     
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    Ok thanks for the replys. I think im clinging too much to the thought that I jave a chance of joining when in reality I dont. Sucks because I want to join more then anything but thats reality I guess.
     
  17. Dutch88

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    I'm no medical expert either, also the replies you've had so far are from people with far more knowledge on the subject than myself.
    But if it were me, I think I'd just apply and see what happens. I've heard that you can request to have a medical fairly early on in the process if you have issues that might pose as a problem.
    Im not sure how early on in the process though.
    But if you don't try, you'll never know. What have you got to lose in trying.
    Obviously just do so with an open mind.
     
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    I had a medical issue that I thought would be a bar to entry.
    But I'm almost at the maximum age limit of age and almost didn't bother applying
    But I'm very glad I did as it turns out it's not an issue, I've got a start date in September. Though as was said before, each case is different.
    I don't mean to get your hopes up at all. But if I hadn't tried I'd I'd always be questioning it.
    Good luck mate if you decide to give it a try.
     
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  19. 15Conor

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    Thanks Dutch. I think I will regret it
    if I dont atleast give it a shot, so I think I will. At this point, I dont have much hope my appeal will he successful but its worth a try.
     
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  20. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    I think that you need to recognise that you cannot appeal a standard. You can appeal a misdiagnosis and provide evidence to support this, but if the standard states that you cannot be accepted because you have a condition that prohibits entry, then you cannot appeal this.

    Also, as it has been pointed out to the OP, RM training is infinitely more strenuous than the Army, so if he didn't make the medical standard for the Army, then he will not make the standard for the Corps.

    Time to face the obvious.

    Alan